Red built a boxing ring at IBC with version 5 Raptors, two version 5 Raptors with dual fish eyes, 8K50 over fiber, live to Vision Pro, live immersive sports, real format, or a demo only that Red can afford?

38:23Next one comes in from our friend Paul Walhus in Austin, Texas. And he says, Red built a boxing ring at IBC with version 5 Raptors, two version 5 Raptors with dual fisheyes, 8K50 over fiber, live to Vision Pro, live immersive sports real format or a demo only that red can afford and he has a link there well i don't work in this industry but to me it seems like something that would be a demo that

38:56only they can afford because first of all apple's not selling a ton of the vision pros and we all know that basically the vision pro although they tried to market it as a consumer product is a glorified beta kit that's really what it is let's not mince words it is a beta kit for people that want to be early adopters that want to see what that technology can do so that they can

39:17actually build apps, build content for that particular platform. Unfortunately, I went to that link. I couldn't see. There was no photo of what this stuff looked like, so I couldn't even tell you what it looked like. Courtney, were you able to see what this setup looked like? Yeah, the problem is it's behind a paywall, you know, so they want you to sign in, and it's British

39:39Cinematographer Magazine, I guess, their website. So maybe you can get there if you want to sign up. You can go take a look at it, but there's kind of an image there that you can see over the paywall. You peek over the paywall. So I guess I can't quite tell from this image whether they're going into a beam splitter, if they're just side by side with the red, using the red raptors. I guess

40:06they're side by side. I don't know if they have a right angle. It's hard to tell from that image there. But like you said, Vision Pro, I was in one of the flagship Apple stores in Beverly Hills where they have a lot of money. And I did notice last time I was there, just last week, that they didn't have any Vision Pros even on display anymore. You used to see them on display and

40:30nobody was looking at them anymore. They don't even bring them out anymore. I guess they're too much of a theft target or something. But I guess you'd have to request a demonstration even in an Apple store. So I'm not sure how well they're selling. And I think as immersive... Honestly, I don't even know if thieves want them because they don't know what to do with them.

40:51Resale on them is not that good, probably. They are one of the most expensive things you can buy in the Apple store, unless you get a fully loaded Mac Pro. But they don't even sell those anymore. one uh yeah so they um the market is pretty limited for live sports over that you know you may have you know i think alexander you have one don't you would you watch live sports i don't own

41:16one oh sorry it wasn't you no um i i'm not a sports guy i think the concept so i think to to the question specifically live sports in an immersive like in a format like that i think conceptually it sounds cool um but i'm not sure who obviously this is red so this is a company that makes high-end cinema cameras but i guess the question is who is this for like this setup with

41:44like it obviously this is production related so we're talking about high-end 8k cameras fiber going live so who is actually is somebody on the crew just using the vision are they are they using it to preview what it will look like before it goes out like who is this really for i'm not entirely certain i i can't i guess somebody there at the event like looking at it through the helmet

42:09to see what it looks like before it goes out to broadcast i guess that's why they need it but well immersive is not going to be broadcast because there's no format that is approved by the fcc for broadcasting immersive yet so uh it's going to be a closed loop system uh if you are able to watch it. So, you know, maybe if you had plugins, fiber plugins available in the stands

42:33at the venue, if you brought along extra batteries in your Vision Pro, you could plug them in in the stands. I don't know how you would distribute this over fiber, you know, special, you know, 10 gig fiber hookup. You'd have a fairly limited audience that could carry that live. And of course, immersive audio is a solitary experience you know you've only uh only one person can look at that