Red built a boxing ring at IBC with version 5 Raptors, two version 5 Raptors with dual fisheyes, 8K50 over fiber, live to Vision Pro—live immersive sports real format or a demo only that red can afford?

38:20All right, let's go to the next question. Next one comes in from our friend Paul Valhus in Austin, Texas. And he says Red built a boxing ring at IBC with version 5 Raptors, to version five raptors with dual fisheyes 8k 50 over fiber live to vision pro live immersive sports real format or a demo only that red can afford and he has a link there well i don't work

38:52in this industry but to me it seems like something that would be a demo that only they can afford because first of all apple's not selling a ton of the vision pros and we all know that basically the Vision Pro, although they tried to market it as a consumer product, is a glorified beta kit. That's really what it is. Let's not mince words. It is a beta kit for people that want to be early

39:13adopters that want to see what that technology can do so that they can actually build apps, build content for that particular platform. Unfortunately, I went to that link. I couldn't see. There was no photo of what this stuff looked like, so I couldn't even tell you what it looked like uh courtney did you were you able to see what this uh setup looked like yeah the problem

39:34is it's behind a paywall you know so they sign in and it's british cinematographer magazine i guess um their website so maybe you can get there if you want to sign up you can go take a look at it but there's kind of an image there that you can see over the paywall you peek over the paywall uh so uh i guess i can't quite tell from my this image whether they're going into a beam splitter

40:00if they're just side by side with the red uh using the red raptors uh i guess they're side by side i don't know if they have a right angle it's hard to tell from that that image there but you know like you said uh vision pro i was in the one of the flagship uh apple stores in beverly hills where they have a lot of money and i did notice last time i was there just last week that

40:25they didn't have any vision pros even on display anymore you used to see them on display nobody was looking at them anymore they don't even bring them out anymore i guess they're too much of a theft target or something uh but i guess you'd have to request a demonstration even in an apple store so i'm not sure how well they're selling and i think as immersive honestly i don't even

40:47know if thieves want them because they don't know what to do with it yes resale on them is not that good probably you know they are one of the most expensive things you can buy in the apple store but uh it's unless you get a fully loaded uh mac pro you know but they don't even sell those anymore uh yeah so they um the market is pretty limited for live sports over that you know you may have

41:11you know i think alexander you have one don't you would you watch live sports i don't own one oh i'm sorry it wasn't really no um i i'm not a sports guy i think the concept so i think to to the question specifically live sports in an immersive like in a format like that i think conceptually it sounds cool um but i'm not sure who obviously this is red so this is

41:38a company that makes high-end cinema cameras so but i guess the question is who is this for like Like this setup with, like, obviously this is production related. So we're talking about high-end 8K cameras, fiber going live. So who is actually, is somebody on the crew just using the vision? Are they using it to preview what it will look like before it goes out?

42:02Like, who is this really for? I'm not entirely certain. I can't, like, is somebody there at the event, like, looking at it through the helmet to see what it looks like before it goes out to broadcast? I guess that's why they need it. But well, immersive is not going to be broadcast because there's no format that is approved by the FCC for broadcasting immersive yet.

42:23So it's going to be a closed loop system if you are able to watch it. So, you know, maybe if you had plugins, fiber plugins available in the stands at the venue, if you brought along extra batteries in your Vision Pro, you could plug them in in the stands. I don't know how you would distribute this over fiber, you know, special, you know, 10 gig fiber hookup.