I thought about a replacement for the Panasonic PTZ software essentially just visual preset tiles to click on. Now I have more or less a full replacement of the Panasonic GUI because vibe coding possibilities are nearly endless. What are your thoughts?

23:00if you notice it it's probably too much but I agree I'm looking at my stuff that I use on my show and I'm like I could use a little shadow maybe anyway next question all right next up is from Andre delay in Berlin I thought about a replacement for the Panasonic PTZ software essentially just visual preset preset tiles to click on. Now I have more or less a full replacement of the Panasonic

23:25GUI because vibe coding possibilities are nearly endless. What are your thoughts? Courtney? I think you ought to come on the panel here and show it to us, or come on Tuesdays and let Bill interview you and show you what you did and how you arrived at it. You know, we're going to see more and more of this because, as you say, because reverse engineering

23:46engineering anything is out there now that you haven't been following what's been going on here in the last month. People have been reverse engineering all kinds of software out here and creating their own bespoke versions or just an open source version of something that cost a lot of money. And it's because of this software called REA that lets you take a piece of software,

24:09load it in and let your cloud code go out, agents go out and reverse engineer it and create a a copy of exactly the same software that runs on your machine and then publishes it in a form that you can then put up on the Internet and let anybody make bespoke. So I think there's just going to be a flood of this kind of software

24:29coming out on the market that's open source. And it's great to share. If you want to share what you've done, that's a great thing. So I'd like to see anything people share. share, but we're just going to be overcome with software here in the next few months, I think. That'd be you, Chris. My mic is muted. Jeff Cohen. I was right on top of it, but my mic is muted.

25:01All right. So this, Andre, I love, not about this specifically, but the whole concept you have, there, which is, you know, we have the software and I would have been locked into their UI in the way they do things. And now, and also, I mean, to Courtney's point, most of it is frankly not reverse engineering in the sense that you're typically developing something with APIs and that kind of jazz. But to

25:30Andre's point, you're able to develop it so quickly, I don't even know if you need to share that much because everyone can just say, do their own customization say I want my software to do this so I've mentioned a few times for quite some time now Reaper's my daily driver dog and I use DaVinci Resolve and you could do a lot of customization I've probably done more

25:53custom scripts and additional custom functionality in the past few months than I did in the past few years it's amazing I just did another test with my my new buddy, Muse, where we were testing, trying to document some new features, or use some features in DaVinci Resolve, and I was testing them, and I said, wait a minute, why don't you just do all of it?

26:15So he wrote a script that I ran in DaVinci Resolve that did all the testing and logged it, and then I just went away and then just gave him the log, and he had all the results. So it's amazing what you could do. So I would absolutely encourage anyone, if you have any kind of software with APIs or anything, thing and you keep saying, I wish it did this, it could probably do that now. Bill?

26:39So I want to look at it from the point of view of workflow. One of the comforts in my life is when I sit on a Final Cut, I know the workflow that I enjoy. And the software reacts to me based on an agreement we kind of have about how the software is going to work and how I'm going to work it.

26:57With all this vibe-coded software coming out and so many people able to do their own things and and customize their own things and recode this. And I don't want that up front. I want something other. I'm just a little concerned that I'm going to get to the point where I'm going to sit down and people will say, well, here's Final Cut, do something.

27:12And I'm going to go, wait a second. None of this works like I expect. Why? Because this isn't the real software. It's a 17th generation Vive coded change on the original concepts. And are we going to get to the point where literally none of us can effectively do anything unless we have complete command of our worlds and can narrow our focus to just what we like.