Building a stage for an event space at my non-profit Veteran Center. It's an empty warehouse currently, with a less than $10,000 budget. What would you focus on? Stage will support podcasts, in-person events, hybrid, and livestreams.

26:29chains suddenly got put out in front of the whole audience and like, oh my God, what did that 60 cycle home come from? I hadn't heard it before. And oh my God, it's chopping out between the phrases. And this is so embarrassing. And so the push button to fix, yes, there's sometimes you have to do it, but please understand that there could be a moment like for me where you

26:58just really embarrass yourself because you never took the steps to learn how to do better. All right. So let's move on to the next question, please, Courtney. All right. Thanks. One comes in from Jack Cannon in Phoenix, Arizona, building a stage for an event space at my nonprofit Veterans Center. It's in an empty warehouse currently with less than $10,000 budget. What would you focus on? Stage will support podcasts, in-person events and hybrid events and live streams.

27:31dreams. Wow, Jack, that's a tight budget. Jeff Francis. And wow, Jack, besides a tight budget, there are two very scary words in your question, and that is empty warehouse. We've all been in an empty warehouse. I think your first and biggest problem is going to be acoustics. That's going to be a, you know, you haven't mentioned that you have any equipment, so I'm assuming we're going

27:59going to need microphones and a PA system, and then you're going to want cameras and network infrastructure and streaming. You're going to need foldback. You're going to need foldback monitors if you're doing hybrid events. Yeah, the budget, you're several orders of magnitude out in your budget. But the first thing I would worry about is acoustics in there, because an empty warehouse can be just a crazy loud place once you get some sound in there.

28:29So I don't know if that's spray foam insulation, which now you need to deal with. Is that environmentally safe? Is that good for people to be around? Is that fire retardant curtains? Something to deal with acoustics in the space is the first place I'd look. look. Maybe it's in an empty warehouse currently. Maybe there's a different venue where you could look at building this event space. Courtney? Yep, I concur with Dr. Francis. The same thing,

29:01the acoustics, you know, we learned that in Hollywood the hard way because a lot of companies, independent production companies, you know, decided to move productions like Roseanne and ALF and those kind of shows from the 80s to empty warehouses because they were a lot cheaper to rent than sound stages. And then they got in there and they found out that the decay time was about three and

29:20a half seconds in those parallel walls, concrete walled warehouses. And the amount that they spent on acoustic treatment just to keep the echoes down to the point that they could record usable sound was way over your $10,000 budget. So yeah, I'd look somewhere else if you, because acoustical treatment in a warehouse can cost a lot of money. And as Jeff Francis said, you got to abide by the fire codes and the health codes and those kind of things.

29:53And acoustical treatment can be tricky to do and handle all those code violations. Ronnie? Don't make it too high. I guess you have some rules about height and having to add kind of side fences or something. The other thing I would think of is as a kind of answer to some of the acoustic problems you will have, try to see if you can fit in some really thick sewn blankets or backgrounds that kind of box the entire,

30:32kind of making a black box around part of the sides coming from the back. and make sure you build it a little bit away from the back wall so that you can have an entrance for people coming up from the back of the stage and having the curtain there behind in the back end of the stage. It's also good for hiding stuff when you're rigging stuff that needs to be hidden away