Does it enable you to create scenes with one or more panelists in the spotlight in a Zoom meeting?

44:40It's informational. It's back end. Other than, sorry, that's not entirely true. The only way that it interacts that is forward facing is through the overlays that I built in the chat overlays. If you use the chat overlays and you're using a tool like Memo or vMix or Ecamm and you can bring those or you could technically do it in Zoom with a little fiddling, then that's forward facing.

45:12But nothing else is. It doesn't control Zoom. It doesn't control Ecamm. If you want that, you got to talk to John Wallace. He's building something amazing for, I think, more up that alley. This is purely back end to help run the conversation. That's really what it's about. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It doesn't run the show. It runs the conversation.

45:36The conversation happens on a different kind of layer in Photoshop turns than the show does. The show is one thing. this is connecting and coordinating and helping everybody perform the show yeah but not figuring out who goes next and who goes on onto there other than allowing the host to determine verbally you go next and you know it's in now that you're saying that um in many ways the app doesn't run

46:05my show it allows me to run my show there you go right because i'm able to be more present than than perhaps I would otherwise be able to be. And I'll also just say that for me, for my workflow, having the Stream Deck integration was the single most important part of this. If I want to advance someone to on-air, I don't want to have to find my mouse and look,

46:30I just want to press a button. And so that works beautifully, which is wonderful. And I can do a little promotion for you here, because from the point of view of somebody who is a guest on a show who's coming in, the big advantage for me has been I can see what we're going to talk about coming up. I have much more information. I'm never sitting there looking at

46:49three by five cards or my notes about what I wanted to go. Now, maybe I want to take some notes about what I want to say on the show. That's a different thing. But in terms of understanding which topics are coming up next, what their scope is, to be able to see the same documents that that David had shared with us a couple of days before and saying, these are the topics we're

47:09going to be focused on this show. And here's some stats and here's some things you can look at if you want to learn a little more about that to form what you want to say on the show. But it's not getting in my way. It's really just making things much more convenient, keeping everybody in the moment. And I think everybody understands that being present when

47:28you're doing something live on the air is about 90% of the battle. You don't want to be distracted by anything. You really just want to know what you need to know and be ready to contribute when it's your turn to contribute. And this has made that a lot easier for me. So. Absolutely. You know, the notes piece is actually interesting. The way when we started the Rondo, we're now

47:5097 shows in, 96 shows in. When we started, what we've been doing all along is we have a Google Doc where I put some research and some questions and what have you. And then people would go in and comment on it and leave notes and things like that. And I didn't want to lose that in pre-show. So this hasn't taken off yet, this aspect.

48:13But one of the things that's built in here is that you can, on any section, you can put in notes. And you can put this in for the whole panel. You can put this in for just the host or the producer, or you can just make private notes. So if I just want to make a private note, you know don't forget to mention this whatever then um now i've got this note attached to this

48:38particular segment that we're going to be talking about um if i if i do a panel note this is a panel note then uh then from the host um i can actually i see that um because it's still open and a little bit like in mukana how you know we're able to mark questions as as answered or addressed i can also say hey we we got that you know we we covered that and then mark that as covered so um so yeah but