TRANSCRIPT · EXTRA HOURS

Extra Hours | Episode 110 | September 28, 2026

29 SEP 2026 · 1:14:09 · ABOUT 13,340 WORDS

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0:00 How's your show been going? My show is going great, I think. We've had sort of a resurgence in the last, I want to say the last month. The number of viewers has picked up and we're working on some things. And I did my very first conversations with Tony Mobley by myself two weeks ago. So that was an interesting experience. My guest was not able to make it.

0:35 And it was kind of funny. I had had a dream the weekend before about being on air by myself. So it just just fell in line. And it was probably one of the best shows recently. And that's kind of thanks to you guys from the Office Hours community asking me questions about why Conversation with Tony Mobley exists. So it was it was a good conversation.

1:05 We've had some great ones. I just had Jeff Francis' dad on this past Wednesday, last Wednesday. day. It was a great conversation. So I had son and then dad the last two weeks. So that was great. That sounds excellent. Well, good. Very good. I'll go farther away than noon in Georgia, at least from Albuquerque. Carl, I feel like we've missed each other for the last couple of

1:35 extra hours. How are things on your side of the hemisphere? So we are entering feels like summer today. So we're over 90 degrees Fahrenheit today here in Adelaide, which is a bit odd for September. I've been busy. But it's good to be back on the show. So I've tried to keep my Tuesdays free when I can. But sometimes I can't, of course, things, you know, life happens. But yeah, so and we've got lots of talk about, I guess, lots of stuff has happened during September.

2:02 Well, yeah, I mean, somebody mentioned Anthropic has filed to go public, which, you know, they only lost, what was it, $38 billion last year? You know, that's, I can't even imagine what amount of money that is. Like, that is an inconceivable amount of money for me. It's, you know, that is the GDP of, like, Europe. It's insane. That's also a subscription fee, I believe, for Colossus.

2:31 I guess, classes one and classes two from XAI. So that's Anthropic, of course, pays, what, $1.25 billion per month to XAI for hardware compute, along with Google, who pays close to a billion dollars as well per month. So that's an interesting subscription fee for AI, both Anthropic and Google. Speaking of subscription fees, it was banging around in the question queue earlier, and I think Guy may have submitted it, but I'm curious, Carl,

3:00 How much do you spend every month on AI, you know, between ChatGPT and Gemini and Anthropic? What do you pay on average for, let's say, last six months, SimpleMean? Zero. Zero? What? Zero. I don't pay anything. I am thoroughly, thoroughly impressed. I use, occasionally I use the free version of Grok, which gives you 20 questions a day. That's about it. Wow. Going from no subscription fee to Guy, I think you're going to be next.

3:38 I'm curious, Guy joining us from just outside of Seattle, Washington. Same question, dare I ask? Yeah, I showed it the other day. Maybe it was a Sunday and so it didn't go out to air. But I do have the $200 a month max cloud plan, and it varies. Sometimes I'm on the $100, but then if I hit that barrier, if I'm in the middle of a project and it says you have to wait five hours, I'm kind of impatient when things happen.

4:04 So I wind up going back up to the $200. And then Chachupi Tea, I'm just on the $20 plan, but I've gone to that $100 one every once in a while. Same thing when I run out. Thankfully, each of them have a little reset where you can sometimes get like a one or two resets. And so a lot of times that grants me enough to be able to just get what I need to get done and then not have to pay the excess.

4:25 And then Grok, I did sign back up and I'm in love with Grok bots. I, it's funny the other day, I asked it to do something with this, uh, DaVinci resolve project and it actually put the clips inside of DaVinci resolve and lined them up and put this graphic and put the subtitles. And I replied back, I'm like, I didn't know you know how to edit video.

4:44 And it's like, well, to be honest, I don't really know how to edit video. I just followed your, your little MCP instructions in GitHub. And I just use Python and I just put it all in there for you and lined it all up. and did it on a little eight gigabyte uh mac mini m2 so i was thoroughly impressed because my other

4:59 machine was tied up that had the claw mcp with with bigger da vinci resolve and 50 or not 50 80 but 30 90 ti card and all the 64 gigs of ram all that stuff uh so the grok bots is well worth the 100 bucks and i'm not paying the 300 though that's that's super grok heavy is the the next level but

5:22 But since mine had so much extra compute, that's why I shifted over to them to see if it would do this editing a video, and it actually did it. So I'm impressed. So how many machines do you have in this MCP configuration? Is it just one? Running the MCP that I made for DaVinci Resolve just to a Mac Mini M2 and then my daily driver, my Windows box that works on Mac and Windows.

5:49 And just to back up, what I'm doing is I'm taking some of the transcription project from Office Hours, and I just said, hey, take some of these and make some what we call super cuts, where it's just like find the topic we talked about most, and then just edit together like a two and a half minute piece of just 15 seconds, just people talking about this subject.

6:08 and it did it it's it's really cool i'll put some out uh some at some point in time they're just really neat it's it's it's neat to hear you know carl's in there and some of our guests are in there and it's just it's it's a lot of fun to see them uh cut together so fast so when is it is it

6:23 all in the same episode or are you going cross episode to kind of get this across the whole corpus of uh yeah actually i told it to only do 2023 and newer because the picture looks so much much better and when you cut in the old stuff from like 2022 and below it's distracting right because you're like oh what's that it's shocking actually especially if it's a bill and a bill or

6:44 an alex and an alex and they're side by side it's like what it makes you think too much about the the production rather than the content of what they're saying because it's so dramatic well and i have some early screenshots and i remember going back to them and thinking to myself like Like, we thought we looked really good back then. And the difference is staggering, you know, all the way back from when we started doing, you know, gray backgrounds because we wanted to save the bit rate.

7:10 You know, we didn't want anything colorful because we wanted every bit to show in our faces. And, you know, it is kind of staggering how different they are. So, yeah, I'm completely with you. you 2023 is that when we started doing we're not broadcasting in hdr yet not every episode or are we i think we were doing some tests back then but there was some stuff in the youtube pipeline that

7:35 just wasn't quite ironed out so we backed off because we were having this trouble of some of them looking gray you know because it wasn't pop properly mapping to the viewers so we were doing it right they just weren't ready for us yet but maybe things have changed and we should revisit visit that HDR workflow. Well, and I remember the first time we ever, I remember, it could be wrong,

7:55 but in my head, that live broadcast we did at NAB, right, was the first live HDR, certainly the first spatial audio that we did that was, I don't think anyone had ever done that prior, at least not live on YouTube. It's easy to do after the fact, but to do it live, I'm pretty sure was that 2024 I want to say that was 2024 that was 2024 so you know before then I

8:24 feel like it was kind of a mishmash of I'm pretty sure we had the pipeline but they didn't they didn't have the way to receive it or they were you know still hammering out the standards I don't know there is a creative way you can solve that problem of stuff before 2023 you can either make it black and white yep you can make it black and white and just put the year down the bottom that kind of

8:46 tells the audience, hey, this is older. That's one way of doing it. Or you can actually put it inside of an old you know, television, old CRT television. Put the footage inside of that. And then have that you know, essentially because it does work like it tricks the brain of the viewer to go okay, this footage is older. So putting it you keep a color then if you put

9:06 it into like an old CRT. It's like put put that VHS like look right over it. Well, you don't well, he's gonna have that look anyway. So that's why you can just chuck it into a TV. You can put the VHS make it even worse but that'd be that's terrible like get rid of the color but you know the black and white

9:19 with the date is one the year or the year anyway or put it into it really interlaced and make it have like some glitchy effects exactly like a scan line going down i've got 4k um movies and the special features from are normally just hd so they don't fly for special features but if you have an older movie where the special features are actually recorded you know back in sd for dvd

9:42 what they do is they put them in a smaller box and just by putting them in a smaller box they could fill the screen if they wanted to but they put them in a smaller box if they're going back to something that if they're mixing HD with SD and just putting in a smaller box that's like 75% the size of the whole frame it just tricks the brain going okay really it's kind of like 720

9:59 really upscaling it's 720 and putting into a 1080 window but it does work it does go okay this is older videos as SD video this is 4x3 but it does work it does trick the brain and going I'm okay with cutting between modern footage and this older footage because they're giving me essentially a frame, literally a frame around the footage to, I don't know,

10:19 it just works for me. Yeah, and if you put it in a downstream key that just has the logo, right? And I'm not sure how I feel about the, instead of an old TV, maybe an old computer or like, you know, an iPhone with the front push button, right? Whatever frame makes sense. whatever right it could be a flip out lcd screen on an old camcorder

10:40 yeah a dv now that that that's clever i don't know worth a shot um speaking of all things format derived uh courtney gooden is also joining us from hollywood california courtney how's the how's the weather are you are you on fire yet i'm here in the mega merger metropolis of hollywood Wooden Gelliford, yeah. Yes, it's lovely today. It was low 80s, 81, but we got a heat spell coming in,

11:07 and all that rain and stuff that came up from that hurricane or something from the south, our El Nino is headed your way. It's right on top of you right now, Jason. It is. No, I have a raincoat right over here because the minute I walk out. Yeah, because you could be wandering out. Yeah, I'm in the middle of merger land here.

11:29 I live really close to Paramount and CBS. And so, you know, here in the ellisons of anarchy, as we move toward the big merger where everybody's working for just one person. Well, and of course, unions really don't like that because there are fewer places to shop, you know, potential scripts. Well, it's less lawyers to negotiate when it comes time to negotiate the contracts, you know, because I've done those contract negotiations for the union.

12:04 And you sit in a room with 33 lawyers from all the major studios, all of them out to hammer you down, hammer down the prices. So, yeah, so it'll be a lot less lawyers in the negotiations now because they'll all be for one entity. That makes me wonder, like, you know, if let's say, what is the merger? just so like if hbo is it's hbo and paramount are two of the bigger ones right that means that

12:32 there wouldn't be a lawyer from hbo it's hbo paramount showtime warner brothers you know uh all of those things cbs cnn all those things streaming streaming cases uh all rolled into one and disney owns the rest of them it'll be just them and disney so potentially there's but universal scenario nobody watches peacock do they yeah well peacocks give it away for free

13:00 extensively by anybody who has comcast because of course comcast is nbc comcast universal is the full name of the company right there um we think of them as an internet or a tv provider but really they're an ad company because that's where they make their money well let's uh let's get it at At least there's that. That's right. At least there's that.

13:25 Well, we have very few questions to start, so I'm going to start the questions. But understand that this show is only going to go as long as we have things to answer. So if anybody and everybody who's listening just goes to askofficehours.global, put in a question. That will make or break the quality and the length of this show. So let's start with our first question.

13:50 Courtney, what do we have? All right. First one comes in from down in Carl's neighborhood. Ian Morish from Wellington, New Zealand. Well, kind of close. Next island. Anyone see Doug Johnson's new broadcast monitor? And he has a link to it there. Well, you're up, so go ahead. I took a look at it. I only briefly, you know, when the question came up, it is a Windows-owned.

00:13:57Anyone see Doug Johnson's new broadcast monitor?

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14:18 and they can see this thing. I'm one of the few guys running Windows here. I think Guy's got a Windows machine here. This is a program that runs on Windows. He may come out with a, you know, with vibe coding being what it is. He may come out with a Mac version sooner or later, but it's a licensed software and it's available in several different editions

14:35 that basically turns your computer into a broadcast monitoring station with live video and, you know, RGB parade, you know, audio monitoring. A lot of the things you'd see on a professional scope or the noobs. What is it? What's the scopes that everyone likes on the Macintosh? Nob Omniscope. Nob Omniscope. That's it. Thank you. It has a variety. There's a free version you can download now, but it's a 0.9 beta.

15:07 And I will warn you that depending upon what your hardware is, if you have the same hardware that I do, watch out. I tried it right before the show, and I am using the RODECaster Video S for audio and video. And since this particular software has to interface with your hardware and your Windows machine, and it looks for any incoming video and audio, so it seizes your video and audio inputs.

15:39 inputs and if it doesn't know you're in the middle of a zoom call it can wreak havoc so don't do it if you're in a live show a little live show doing audio here's the pricing uh uh when it comes out it's not coming out till november according to him here and december i think ships uh and i don't know what this license if that were bigger i could read it uh it's 39

16:03 $39 introductory price. And then the professional version is going to be 99 bucks for its introductory price and later goes to $299. Wow. So a third off. If you buy into the professional version and the zero right now, but you don't get any of the meters and things like that. You get false color, high zebras, and a clock view, and RGB picture and individual RGB channels.

16:32 But you don't get all the fancy scopes and other things that the regular version. And I don't know for how long this subscription is. Is it a one-time purchase? Is it a one computer price? I don't know. How many computers can you put it on? It'd be great to put it on these little Windows computers that you can find all around. is just make this a dedicated scope machine like this,

17:04 or the quieters, too. If it doesn't need too much horsepower to run, it depends on... I haven't looked at the system requirements yet, so those may not have enough. They're four-core, and they have decent Intel, you know, poor video... VGA, I mean, video adapters built into them. So I'll look at that, but it looks like something... I like Doug Johnson's channel, so take a look at his channel.

17:32 Do we know what Doug's setup is for this? Is he using like NDI? Is that how he's bringing video in? I'm just wondering how Doug's ingesting the video for the scopes. You know, I'm looking at the actual page. I looked at any video that's available on your Windows computer at the time. So it saw my video S, and I tried to switch to it,

17:49 and that's when it hung up the computer for about a minute and a half. I mean, I lost mouse movement, everything else. So it may have some... Well, Ian Morish in the chat is saying, three computers perpetual for the major version release. So, yeah, it makes me wonder if it's three computers and can you move them around? Initially, Dante, for example, lets you move them around.

18:14 And then they're like, ooh, we don't want to do that because they're not getting enough license, right? Yeah, NBI, I think it will handle... It'll probably handle any type of video source that will show up on your computer. Sure. So if anything is showing up as a webcam or any other video input card you have that shows up as a video source, it'll probably be able to sync its teeth into.

18:44 And that includes if you have running NDI monitor on the machine, which will run some Windows. Those will run on those little computers too. So it probably brings those in as well. Well, and I like the interface, you know, as usual, because Doug has done so many of these things, like, you know, having the windows set so you can kind of move them all around.

19:02 Of course, all that's available in Nobob Omniscope, which is much more expensive. And of course, I don't think it's cross-platform. If it is, I've only ever used it on macOS. But it's also really nice to see the heat map directly below the frequency. frequency, that's pretty good. Like, he clearly did think about this. And I'm just, you know, my thought is I'm not sure how familiar he is with selling software. And this is one of these

19:30 things where, like, you know, you've got to get a good product or nobody's going to buy it, or too many people will buy it, and then you'll just get inundated with support calls or, you know, new requests for new features. And that can also make it tricky. key. Anyone else on this one? If not, we'll go to the next. All right, next question, Courtney.

19:51 All righty, going next to Noonan, Georgia, and Tony Mobley, who's here on the panel tonight. Has anyone added the graphics interface to Claude? AI question. What do you mean by that, Tony? Do you mean, like, have you tried it for graphics, or is there an actual direct tie-in you're talking about there is a senior moment question writer in on the panel tonight so

00:20:04Has anyone added the graphics interface to Claude? AI question.

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20:22 throwing a cockade in the cockade just went so what i what i actually meant to share was that there is a new uh interface in claude that will allow you to, it's called the graphic designer killer. And as a person who used to use Adobe page maker and Adobe InDesign and who is for whatever reason, struggling with, uh, Canva, I don't understand it, but, uh,

20:55 I saw this Tik TOK today and I put a link in, in our, um, and our panel conversation. And what it does is in 30 seconds, you're allowed to take your cloud and actually use it connected with other features in cloud that will allow it to do your graphic designs for you. I have not tried it yet. I was just wondering if anybody else heard about it.

21:26 I think this might be very interesting if it does work the way the TikToker suggests that it does. Yeah, and you put a TikTok link in. I do my best never to click on TikTok links, I'll be honest. But yeah, looking at it now, that's really interesting. Has anyone else played with this? I don't think so. Despite a senior moment, Tony, you are right on the cutting edge

21:54 because i don't think anyone else has had a chance to play with this uh john wallace in the chat said that um the cloud harness is a gui so i guess that could be part of it um you could install let's see edward augustine says you could install the cloud app and that works well if you don't want to go using terminal so you know the the cloud app may may be another way in here that is you know less

22:19 less scary because you don't know what it's doing outside of its own little sandbox. Because you know, of course, back OS, especially in especially in Golden Gate, right? It asks for permission to do everything and you have to give it permission one at a time. What I found is that the real benefit or well, the real complexity is if you say no, and

22:44 then you mean to say yes, it can be really hard to get it to ask again. end and then you have to go in manually and you know drag the app in and assign that um because if you initially say no it it doesn't allow i think the apps aren't allowed to continue to to to ask and to pester you so i don't know um be it's one of these be careful uh let's see john

23:07 wallace's club design is pretty good uh but it's in its own sandbox oh okay but is it still in a a sandbox if you're allowing it to do other things maybe I don't fully understand that Carl do you can you shed some light there so my guess is what being sandbox is that whatever it's bringing in so as Courtney said it can

23:28 subscribe to a video feed but I don't think you can share that video feed back out again so I think that's what it means by sandboxing so it can it can like listen for video feeds but I don't think it can distribute I don't think you can and transform and distribute video feeds. I think that's what they mean by sandbox. Got it.

23:44 Guy, what do you got? Yeah, I was looking at the video and it's using an MCP. So basically, model context protocol, it allows you to do things like log in. It's a connector. So you're basically saying, Canva, hey, if I ask you and Claude to do something, allow me to use your account to go into Claude and act as you. I could open up the app and I could move the mouse around.

24:09 So I don't know if you've seen this agentic capability, Tony, where you open up, clod the app on your Mac and ask it to do something, and the screen goes orange, and it starts moving your mouse around. Have you seen it do that? I have not. Okay. But I'd be very interested in seeing that. It's pretty wild what happens. Have you downloaded the clod app onto your Mac, the actual clod app, not the browser?

24:35 Okay. And then if you use CoWork. Yes, I'm doing $20. a month okay yeah it'll burn through that pretty quickly so this is where it starts to take up some tokens to do things but the mcp instead of moving your mouse it doesn't require that uh uh human kind of uh i'm gonna be you type of uh uh gooey move the mouse click on a button it could just go

25:00 and do things so if you say uh hey claude use canva to design me an eight and a half by 11 sheet with the, I want to make some postcards and I want to have, I want to make a thousand of them for my realtor, um, uh, friend. And, and he, he does houses, uh, in this certain area, make me, make me give, show me what you got. And with that prompt, it would just, just open up Canva and

25:24 start designing. And you can say, give me 10 different options. And, uh, you could say, make that color. Once you see them, you can start saying things like make that color blue, make that font uh his font actually here's his font um uh uh uh what do you call it uh brand uh we call it when you get the brand sheet from somebody where it's just like these are our colors

25:46 these are our look not lookbook there's another brand somebody knows the name of it anyways it when you feed it that all of a sudden it changes everything again so you don't even actually have to know canva you could just start using it just like when i did this mcp thing with with uh Resolve, there's in this new version that came out last week, it's also an MCP. So I was just

26:07 doing it today. It had spelled a lower third wrong. It actually did put Bill Davis's name over the top of Alex Lindsay. And I said, Hey, on that last one, that's not Bill Davis, that's Alex Lindsay. And it goes, Oh, and it went back and it, it changed it. And I was like, that's crazy that I just, I kind of went there and did it myself, but I just wanted to see what it would do.

26:27 and it went ahead and changed it. So these MCPs where these APIs are allowed to go in, so that's what it is. It's a hook that allows it to go in and talk to that other app. And so these agentic capabilities are getting super exciting because I've done it where, so I was in line and I asked Rockbots to do a batch of 10 more videos.

26:52 So I was essentially editing video from a prompt on my phone, which is just bananas to think about. But again, it's the MCP and the Syngenta capability where once you get everything hooked up and you get into a rhythm, you could just say, give me 10 videos and I'll give you 10 videos. It's pretty bananas. So I can imagine 10 postcards, 10 whatever graphic design thing you want in the future.

27:14 It's pretty exciting. So does it turn out 10 all at once or does it give them to you one at a time? on some of the stuff that i've done it'll launch 250 agents if i asked to like it wow yeah it'll it'll depending on what it is that you want it'll just push out but on the stuff that i was doing

27:33 with these these videos some of them were taken quite a while because we have in our what we call corpus of uh all the office hours episodes we have 25 million words and so it was having to go through the 25 million words and so it would first that was what would take a long time is it would take about 18 minutes to make one video because it's not doing it by video it's doing it by

27:53 transcription words so when we have all these words and we say give me give me a mash-up of nd every time we said ndi and sdi and it just goes through and it looks for all those terms through all those words and that is to create the semantic index which is i would assume exactly a bunch of the work yeah yep so as it gets better and better and that's why i'd love

28:15 for us to have our own box like where it was an office hours box where we could get it to learn things like this like to learn uh who the difference between who alex is and who bill is and and start to uh because it could take snapshots that was the other thing i was blown away because some of the lower thirds because of the way that the show the morning show uh goes down the lower

28:35 thirds were already baked in and so i i caught it uh taking pictures of every single first frame when somebody starts to talk and it would not put a lower third if there was already one but i looked in its index and it just had all these pictures of all these like the bottom half of people and i was like why is it interested in the bottom and then i was like oh it's smart enough to go

28:57 look for lower thirds and only put them there if it requires one just so the eye is pretty smart so it's not dumb like when you just say go do something it's it's actually well it chooses is haiku or sonnet or opus i haven't been doing much fable because it just burns tokens but each video i was doing was about 130 000 tokens which was like two bucks or something like that

29:21 so if i was to pay for it but the it's included in i have enough tokens in my max plan so it's not doing it individually looking at the video itself so i can actually see the images can it It does. Yeah. So it first pass is it, it does, it's editing by words, by transcription and anybody could do this with regular DaVinci resolve studio. Like it's built in now.

29:45 And then the MCP is built into the new version that was just launched. And then the, the thing of it taking pictures, that's, that's new to me. I don't know why, like, so somehow I figured it out and I don't know if it's because of just the workflow that I started doing, that it started started going, oh, I know how to work around this to make sure I don't, because I had said,

30:05 you can't put a lower third there if there's already one there. And so it probably just said, okay, how do I solve this? Take a picture and then check. There is one way to use, like just not video, just taking a picture of each time the scene changes, like his first frame of scene changes. And you can fingerprint everyone by their background. So it doesn't matter which video is, because the backgrounds don't change for us.

30:27 It doesn't care about our faces, right? You know, it could tell us purely from like here down, right? Well, you can just look at the background so we can be fingerprinted by a photograph of just the background, say, cut out the person and say, this is Bill Davis. He's got like a, you know, a Mac 128 in the background. That's it. And then you can go, you know, so you can use this for everyone,

30:47 especially throughout the years, because their backgrounds don't change very much. And then if it has a question of who is this and you can just tell it and then that's it, you have to tell it once. That's it. yeah i mean this is assistant editor role of you know years of somebody having to go and hire people to scan footage i mean if you get it down to a rhythm where you do say take a snapshot every

31:10 uh three seconds analyze that frame and is the is the footage blurry like that's that's how granular we're starting to get is tell me if the footage is usable because of it is a handheld shooter and you're going through, you know, 50, 60 minute tapes, and you're just trying to find usable footage, you could start to parse some of this down using AI.

31:31 So it's exciting for that too, where you have projects that would have never got made of archival footage, because now you can just load it in, have the AI look at it and let you know what's usable and what's not usable. That's really cool. By the way, if you're watching this on YouTube, you're missing half the show. show, go to officehours.global join and that'll get you into Mukana and Discord where you

31:54 can actually chat and interact with other producers and really get a sense of speaking. I've got to use the word corpus because that's exactly right. Like the corpus of information that's available on the Office Hours Discord is absolutely phenomenal. So that's officehours.global join. That's officehours.global join. Next question. And AI is getting smarter. It's going to kill us all, but at least it'll cut a great video of us right before it does.

32:23 The next question comes in from Roscoe Jones in Madison, Indiana. And Roscoe says, Apple's latest OS 26 and OWC's latest SoftRaid 9 tout recovery from two simultaneous drive failures in a raid. Why do we need this, and should I care? Carl. all so yeah this has been being built into mac os for a long time i guess it's called raid six so there are other flavors from other companies have done this so sonology have their own flavor

00:32:40Apple's latest OS 26 and OWC's latest SoftRaid 9 tout recovery from two simultaneous drive failures in a raid. Why do we need this and should I care?

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32:55 and i guess um drobo had their own flavor of this as well but essentially raid six requires i think minimum four drives i'm pretty sure i think red five is minimum three so raid six can have two two failures and you'll still have all your information there um obviously it uses uh two drives as parity drives or you know backup drives so essentially your data goes down a little

33:19 bit um there are calculators you can just go into put in raid calculator and then choose your rate and it'll show you on google but yeah it's called raid six that's kind of the standard and then other companies have their own um proprietary versions on the same technology um and i believe that the Apple one would just be RAID 6. I don't think Apple does anything proprietary,

33:38 but other companies like OWC and Synology and stuff like that, they may have their own proprietary wrapper on how this works. It mainly has to do with looking at health. So they have some proprietary stuff in there to look at the health of a drive to know when it's failing rather than just alive and dead. It actually has failing, change it now kind of thing.

33:56 Dravo had the same thing in the past. Yeah, the idea here is really to just kind of bring it to parity with your Synologies of the world. You know, it's fairly common to have the ability to do dual recovery, right? Simultaneous failure of two drives at the same time. And soft rate is just catching up to that. Next question. Next question comes in from Chlalik Lopez-Waterman in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

34:23 Chlalik wants to know, is there a good way to control a web presenter with OSC or other protocol? call. I guess he's talking about the Blackmagic Web Presenter or Web Presenter 4, kid. Yeah, I think so. Courtney, go ahead. Well, I don't know if it supports OSC directly, but there is an API published by Blackmagic, which these days, in the days of vibe coding,

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34:47 you could download that API. It's available with all the controls that can be talked to over the the Ethernet connection to the web presenter, or the, I think, also over the USB connection. And you could just develop your own software to support the OSC protocol or to control it from whatever other software or program you want to control. I'm sure that'd be, if you feed it that API,

35:15 I'm sure vibe coding could probably come up with something pretty quickly to interface it to whatever system you need to interface it to. Makes sense. Carl? Yeah, as Courtney said, so it's actually in the instruction manual. So the back third of the instruction manual is, well, the back third of the English part, so different languages, of course, but the back third of the English part of the instruction manual

35:35 is all the different protocols that you can use to control it and how. So the beautiful thing is you can take that PDF of just the English version of the manual. You can put it into Grokbot, Claude, whatever you want, and tell it, hey, learn this and learn how I can talk to it. And then you can actually start giving it commands

35:51 or give it agents to start giving you commands on how can you develop a web app that will allow me to control this over local ethernet can you control me a web app that will allow me to control this via vpn you know and so forth and over public internet and it will create your little web apps that will allow you to control that device um over different um connections essentially as i said like

36:10 local or public internet would be the two common ones um and it will do it will vibe code it so as corny said it will vibe code it you just need to feed it that pdf you want to feed it the whole pdf So the human readable stuff, which is the first two thirds of course, all the settings, and then the last third of the manual, which is the actual, uh, the protocol and the syntax

36:28 for all the different protocols, um, and what you can do. So it's pretty cool for that because we publish it all. Of course, there's also a rest API, which I'm guessing guy is going to go for guy. Um, I would just use companion. It's already, it's already there. It's already done. And, uh, there's some lovely buttons over there. So depending on what you want to do, you could just launch companion.

36:51 And even if you don't have a stream deck, you could just use an emulator and have your pretty buttons and make them as big as, or as small as you want. And there's even that other, I don't use it myself, but there's that onscreen one that makes it so you could float it and put it wherever you want. Yeah. Now companion is generally the first place I look for.

37:09 Can I do X? Can I control X with Y? And my first stop is always companion. Next question. Next one comes in from Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada. Alexander Knight wants to know, do we have an ATEM Extreme ISO G2 test yet? It's been on the market for a while, but it still feels like tumbleweeds with no firsthand reports or in-depth reviews.

00:37:24Do we have an ATEM Extreme ISO G2 test yet? It's been on the market for a while but it still feels like tumbleweeds with no firsthand reports or in-depth reviews.

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37:35 Anybody got one? Didn't we get one here at the office? Every time I have $2,000, I have something better to do with it. Carl. So there's a gap in the market there, Alexander. So what you want to do is you want to sit down and think first about what you think the review should have. So look at the specs, read the manual twice and think about, okay, what should be in a

37:56 review and then rent one and then make the review and get a million views on YouTube. You just found a gap in the market, Alexander. But make sure you do the theory first, read the manual and think about everything that you'd want to see in a review yourself of a product that has all these features. And then once you've got that on paper, essentially a scripted review, make it about 20 minutes,

38:16 then go rent one. Just rent one for a week and make the review. That's your job for that week is to make the review, make the best review that's possibly on YouTube for it. And then that's it. Million views later, you'll be fine. Guy. Yeah, I had reached out to our contacts at Blackmagic a couple months ago, and they were fresh out of loaner units.

38:37 and then they circled back just a couple weeks ago and they said, hey, we got some, what's your address? And this was right about IBC time. So I'm wondering if they just got buried and then just didn't ship it to me, but it's supposed to be here any day. But that just reminds me that I will reach out to them again and be like, hey, did you ship that?

38:52 I've been waiting for it, especially with the new Zoom ISO 3.06. I'm anxious to do what Andy did, which is just plug one Thunderbolt cable in and see how SRT works with getting all those ins and outs with just one cable instead of plugging all the other ones in. Yeah, sounds great. And, you know, looks like Alexander wants to collaborate on that with you.

39:15 So very good. Next question. I smell a demo. Guy Cochran from Seattle, USA says, what's new in Zoom ISO 3.0.6? All right. A Cochran hath been thrown and a Cochran hath be answering. Go ahead. I don't have like a hardcore demo or anything. I just it came out a few hours ago So I'm not that fast on the blog and there's stuff cooking during the day

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39:40 But I did get to play with it a little bit and one of the things that I had asked for got done Which it's not a big deal But for me it was and actually I'll just pull up the changelog so you guys could walk through it here Let's go to here. Let's cut to here. So it looks like there's quite a few things here

39:58 or so here's 3.05 down here. The biggie for me and the company that I work with, Stacious Ventures, we had kind of bugged folks in the forums at our Discord to get this one done, which is to get the mouse. Where is it? Let me make this a little bit bigger. I'm having trouble even seeing it. Oh, yeah, there it is. Added support for optional receiver side rendering

40:25 of a mouse pointer on screen shared content. So we do a lot of medical stuff and this was a big deal because the presenters will be in front of an audience and these guys are doctors, you know, they don't want to mess around. They just want to do what they're used to doing, which is pointing out, let's say, a piece of the brain where an area of the brain where they need to say this is what's going on.

40:44 And so it's crucial for us to not have to regenerate that stuff in post. So having it where basically, you know, it's recorded and baked in and done. So when we, at the end of the show, we're not having to do a bunch of work to put that mouse back on. So that's one of the new things. There's some color settings for Rec. 601, 709, and 2020

41:11 for the outgoing resolution. The other one that I wanted, which I was just talking about, was the permission. There was a permission here. Sorry, I have not, yeah, yeah, here it is. no sorry i should have been more prepared for this but there there is a way now that i i can dismiss this this thing this pop-up that used to come up that would uh ask you to uh it was a

41:43 secondary pop-up for recording permissions but all in all uh it seems to be working i do have it running right about let's see is it this one yep so here it is running and they did add more talk So one of the things that was in 3.05 was this ability to talk back, uh, to four people, and now you can do 16 of your hardware supports it.

42:05 So I loaded up eight here. Yeah. So I just have eight in this mock-up meeting and I, I routed eight channels of Dante to those. And so now if this were an actual meeting and I needed to talk to Annika, I could just push this and that would go direct to Annika, so really cool stuff. Yeah. Very good. Next question. Next one comes in from Port Coquitlam once again in British Columbia. Alexander Knight asks,

42:32 I understand supply demand has driven solid state memory prices up because of AI compute, but why are spinning drives going up in cost too? I have a feeling I know what you're going to say, but go ahead, Carl. So AI data centers are that exactly. They do both AI, which is processing of tokens but they're also data centers which means they need data so i'll use grok as an

00:42:47I understand supply demand has driven solid state memory prices up because of AI compute, but why are spinning drives going up in cost too?

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43:00 example because grok kind of tells you what it's looking at when it's thinking so if grok goes out and looks at like a cnn web story uses it looks at wikipedia it looks at grokopedia it looks at all these different things it's not actually going out to the internet to look at those it's actually looking at its own hard drives spinny drives and these large capacity hard drives

43:17 because it's scraping the public internet so we know that grok has already scraped the entirety of of Wikipedia because of Crocopedia. So we know that, but it's also scraping all these news. And this is where the news ones are kind of funny because Croc only needs one subscription behind the paywall and it can scrape everything. And it's like, oh, you're going behind the paywall.

43:36 So that's one of the arguments, but anyway. So it's scraping all this data from everywhere. And it's kind of working if you remember how a fusion drive worked back in Apple. So Apple has essentially there's the processor and then you have the faster SSD drive. And then you have the spinning drive behind it for stuff you use less regularly now in this scenario it's not ssds essentially ssds are used

43:59 for more short term the hard drives is really taking the place of the ssd and a fusion drive and the public internet is taking the place of the spinny drive and a fusion drive so we're just stepping one step away so it will put stuff that it regularly gets asked to look at into hard drives physical hard drives on its own server so it can get to it quickly without any data costs because

44:17 it's got to pay for ISP charges going in and out of the building and if the stuff gets very irregular it will go out and look at the web but if it gets asked to look at something like two or three times it will simply scrape that or maybe it scrapes it every time depending on how much and this is the thing this is why they have so many large capacity spinny drives is because every time it gets asked

44:37 something and it doesn't have it in its own storage on spinny drives it has to go out to the web within the algorithm it says how many times do I have to look at this website before I scrape it and bring it into the hard drive so i don't have to go out to web again but it does have to look at a delta to see if something has changed so and again in the algorithm if the information is uh

44:56 old and it's not going to change like a story from two years ago like a new story then it can just scrape that and not have to go look at the delta but this is kind of all the stuff that's happening behind the scenes when you ask something and this is why apple um enlisted google's help to do outward looking ai requests because google is doing this too google is literally scraping

45:16 from the internet for, I guess, Gemini is their product. Apple have their own deal with Google. So they're not technically using Gemini, but they're using Google's storage on their hard drives. That's what Apple and Google is really doing because Apple can go out and look at the internet itself from its own data centers, but it doesn't want to do that. It wants to use a store of the internet

45:36 that's on hard drives in someone's building, which in Apple's case, it's Google. So it is kind of convoluted, but the reason is AI data centers need need as much lithography as possible, and that's for the processing. Lithography again for SSD, so that's lithography time taken up and that's why it's expensive to get SSDs and RAM. But then it also needs an enormous amount of spinning drives because it needs just an

45:58 enormous amount of data that can be accessed relatively quickly, you know, within a few seconds, for it's essentially the data that you're asking for it to look at because it doesn't want to go out to the public internet every time, and the public internet is sometimes fickle. So they just simply want the data in their own building so they can provide a better product than, you know, the competitor.

46:18 Yeah, the answer is that the two are inexorably linked, no matter how you do it. Anytime prices go up on one, the prices will follow on the other. Courtney, you have something to add real quick? Well, also on those spinning drives is RAM cache involved, and that means they got to put those chips on those spinning drives too. And since all those RAM chips and, you know, flash RAM and especially static RAM and dynamic RAM comes out of the same foundries, you know, they can't make those spinning drives unless they have the cache.

46:46 So, you know, they're going to run in, you know, even if they're only using, you know, a couple of megabytes of cache, they still got to put the RAM in there and they still got to come out of the same foundry. So that's why the prices are going up. They're not, you know, they can hold up production because of the lack of live stream.

47:05 Yep, makes sense. Next question. Next one comes in from Eduardo Augustine in Panama City, Panama. Guy, you mentioned DaVinci Resolve Studio now includes the MCP setup. What Blackmagic design hardware includes Resolve Studio, and which can be considered a great deal to get Studio 21? Uh, Courtney is set to go first, but I'm going to let Guy do it because Guy was the one who was asked.

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47:35 So go ahead, Guy, and then Courtney can follow up. All right. Uh, I'm, I used to be a black magic reseller, so I would know all this stuff off the top of my head. But since I haven't been tasked with, uh, ordering SKUs and being up to date with all the latest and greatest and what's bundled, I'm not positive what the lineup besides, um, the speed editor is like 430 bucks and it includes a copy.

47:58 So that would probably be your best entry level. If you don't need the speed editor, then you could just sell that on eBay. And now you've got the license for hopefully less than what it would cost. Cause I think it's two 99 for the, uh, studio license. Uh, eBay is what I would recommend is just, I just went and searched and they run about one 79 to two 50.

48:16 So you're saving a few bucks and tax. Uh, but there's probably people in this community that have one. Uh, I mean, maybe in chat, somebody will be like, Oh yeah, one of those came with my cinema camera a few years ago. and I don't need it, or some people have five of those cameras and only needed one license. So you might find somebody in the community that already has one.

48:36 Courtney? Yeah, it does come with all the cameras, all the cinema cameras, where you need to create LUTs, you know, to color your camera, et cetera. The pocket cinema camera, the cinema camera, the URSAs, the Pixis, any of those. Also, any of their keyboards that are designed for Resolve, The Resolve speed editor, like Guy was talking about, their Resolve editor keyboard with the colored keycaps.

49:03 The also micro control panel, the Resolve micro control panel, and the mini panel, and the advanced panel. So any of the DaVinci Resolve control panels, you know, also include the card. And so if you find somebody that's bought a bunch of them, a bunch of cameras, like Guy was saying, they'll probably have the little key card that it ships with, which gives you your unlock key.

49:28 So they might have some you can buy on eBay cheaper. Next question. From Douglas Carmichael. It says, when you're using Claude, do you sometimes wish you could clone a conversation as you work and create a branch? It remembers. You know, I find that extremely annoying. So I don't. Does anyone else have experience with that? I kind of hate that branch thing. Like maybe it's just antithetical to the way that I work.

50:02 But for those who haven't seen it, it's, you know, you get the response and it's on the far left. It says, you know, create a new branch with this response. Anyone at all? If not, I don't really have a good answer there. Anyone? Going once, going twice? All right, we'll skip it. Next question. Comes in once again from Panama City, Panama, Eduardo Augustine.

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50:29 Talking about vibe coding and controlling gear, I've been trying to use Python to connect a pan-tilt zoom camera with RTSP and control it through Vizca, which is a control interface for cameras, but I failed. Should I get a different approach? Guy. Yeah, I'm curious as to what model of camera it is, because there is different flavors of Vizca. There's like TCP and UDP.

00:50:43I've been trying to use Python to connect a pan-tilt zoom camera with RTSP and control it through Vizca, which is a control interface for cameras. But I failed. Should I get a different approach?

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50:57 And so I'm curious if there's a way to do it with ChatGPT or Clod or one of the bigger frontier models. I'm curious as to which one you're working with, because they're pretty dang smart, should be able to figure it out. But what might be helpful is if you have it plugged in via the camera plugged in on the same subnet, same network, and you're able to access it via GUI, then be more specific and tell Claude or use the actual app.

51:24 Use the download the app and put it on your machine. Like I have a Linux box that just is Claude CLI, and I could point it at something as long as it's on the same subnet and have it talking to it pretty quick. But I'm explicit. listen, I say, Hey, it's on the network at this address. And here's the credentials here. It's

51:42 admin and admin, if that's the default. And it can go in there. Like I've had mine do crazy stuff. I was telling it to SRT out to a specific address in Azure at a certain bit rate, just because I was being lazy. I was just like, yeah, you go do it for me. I don't even want to open up the GUI. And it was just like, sure. It took a while and I was watching it and it figures it out. It was

52:03 is actually going in there it's just burning tokens i mean sometimes i don't know why i do some of the stuff i do but this is where the subsidized uh like in the future we may not be able to be this crazy uh because you know the there's a true cost of these tokens and uh they're being heavily subsidized by these frontier models so sometimes you get too many things bacon and

52:24 you're just like oh yeah you could do that for me and you could do that for me this is a cool thing about grokbots too is uh you can just keep spinning them up and you can just say uh one of mine's called newcastle you could be like newcastle you go do this and uh sarah you you watch him do that when he's done go assign him this and that and you get a loop going it's pretty cool mickey

52:46 writing in from the chat where's one f jeff to say central control yeah go ahead so yeah you can put a hardware box that controls via visca and then as long as that hardware box can understand commands can be some api all constellations so just a baby constellation so one of me constellation could do this now so and of course blackmagic has apis and sdks but apis to control the constellation

53:13 and because you can plug in via ethernet so in other words all constellations can control will have what's called visca via ethernet via ip so that's one way so if you have a constellation even just a 1me constellation hd you can now use that as a visca control box um and you can essentially even vibe code that easily because you know you have a documentation in the back

53:34 of the manual as we said before for the black magic products that have apis um so yeah so any constellation can do uh visca via ip if that's what you're trying to do if you're trying to do it via rs422 that's a different thing altogether so therefore you'll need a box which technically the constellations have that as well but i won't come to that um but yeah so there are other ways

53:54 of doing it but you will need a box in the middle that will do it the constellation is a good example of that courtney yeah it depends on what ptz you're using and what what whether it has an rs232 interface or if you're just communicating over ethernet and you could use biscuit as was mentioned encapsulated over ethernet over uh udm uh udp or tcp uh so it depends depends on what

54:19 brand camera etc was as was mentioned but yeah i i go back to when sony cameras had that little mini plug with this guy plugged in and set it over uh rs232 feed uh to the camera to control So zoom and focus on all the other good stuff. There are many ways to support Office Hours Global. You can like or subscribe to us on YouTube.

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55:09 OfficeHours.global.com. That's OfficeHours.global.com. Once again, OfficeHours.global.com. And that brings us to, oh, no, there's one more question. Okay, yes, here it is. Guy, go ahead. Yes, Guy Cochran. Well, let me read the question first. Okay, I jumped the gun. I pulled up Claude's DaVinci snapshots. Want to see it? Take it away, guy. Forge yours. Earlier I was talking about these little lower thirds where it took some pictures,

55:42 and so I just wanted to cut over really quick and give you a little bit of the conversation. This is Claude desktop running on the PC. And so it ran. I said, okay, go ahead and proceed with a batch of 10. Ran five agencies, two tools, loaded tools. Ran five agents, four tools, loaded tools. use 32 tools. And as it's going through and looking like, here's the pictures that it was

00:55:46Guy pulled up Claude's DaVinci Resolve snapshots—want to see it?

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56:03 taking to see if there was a lower third and it did this all by itself. So it figured all that out. And so what's the result? Like actually first, here's the super coats that it chose. I did not choose these. Um, it said, Hey, I think a good topic would be growing a YouTube channel. Uh, PTZ cameras, ATEM tricks is your internet ready going multicam. So you're like, okay, guy,

56:24 I came up with some interesting stuff. Well, this is what it actually did. I did not build any of this. This is pure. Yeah, this is pure. I did not make this background. I did not put that logo there. I did not put that title up. I did not put any of these subtitles here. I did not put any of these tracks, any of this audio.

56:42 This is 100% built by Claude, and it is amazing. So the one on green screen. So here's one on green screen. And again, it's just like starts out with a title, old green screen in virtual sets and somebody's gonna say yeah that could look prettier i could do better yeah i'm all ears like let's let's make this thing cool because it i don't know what we're

57:04 gonna do with these but they're just really neat and i'm just amazed that it's doing these by itself so you can see there's uh two three like this is really cool is that uh 10 10 or so cuts cuts per, and the subtitles though. I mean, it's all the words that they said. So it's every word that they said. And so I actually ran a test where I just did a private Facebook where I put up a

57:30 post and then I said, export the SRT. And that's the other thing is it kicked out all the files. Like I didn't even export them. It exported them too. It does require some cleaning up though. though, because like Alex says here, he says like 24 to 70 or is a different one. It was one I had to I had to go in and clean up. It was this one, which which camera should I buy?

57:51 So he said 24 to 70 lens or no, it was a glass one. Man, there's so much good content. Like all these are awesome. Like I was watching them and I'm addicted already. Like some of the stuff because it's it's it's a super cut. It's like a lot of action packed into two and a half minutes like this one's called streaming everywhere at once and tony he's on the panel and

58:12 he's he's actually in this one so you it's it's just fascinating i i'll start putting them up as long as everything checks out everybody's cool with them then uh they're just they're neat they're really cool is this going to be accessible from our new website which is now being built uh we're figuring it out and we're it's kind of fly by night at the minute i would love to have

58:33 like a little super cut section so that that would be a spot i just got to make sure it's okay with everybody make sure that everybody wants to opt out they don't want their image in there though we have an eject button and because i don't want to make a bunch of these and then somebody says oh no you shouldn't do it that way don't have me saying anything stupid and outdated right

58:49 and we'll be just fine all right let me put that in the prompt yeah right peter asks uh how much would someone pay for ai have to get that done Guy, do you have any sense of what that cost? Well, that's the thing is I want to put all this just up for free on a GitHub. So as I learn this stuff, I'm going to put it up into a place for us just for now.

59:14 And so if somebody wants it, they could just go in and grab it and it would be free. But giving it to Claude, just saying, here's guys get MCP, put it down on my machine, pull it down. And here's my footage. What can you do with it? you know, just even asking it something simple as that, it would be like, okay, let me see what

59:35 he's done and let me see what you have. And let me work through it and trim, trim things up. That's the other thing is I asked it to give me handles. Cause it was, it was cutting everything too tight. And I was like, I need at least three seconds on each side. And it went and did that. So, I mean, and this is just the beginning. So, you know, something as simple as that, like,

59:51 Hey, there needs some breathing room on that tail. And, uh, it gave, it just said, yeah, yeah, sure, that's now part of the Git. So I'll put it up there and it'll be free. I think, yeah, you're right. I think two and a half to five minutes for larger topics where you've got heaps of stuff. I think that's the right length. Yeah, I agree.

1:00:11 Somewhere between two and a half and five minutes, yeah. So next we have our content recommendations. And for those of you that are unfamiliar with this tried and true tradition, it's anything you've watched or anything that you've kind of come across that is available on Apple TV or Netflix or even YouTube. What has your undivided attention since the last time, I suppose,

1:00:36 you appeared on one of these Monday shows? Carl's going to start us off. Carl, what do you got? So for me, it's actually a YouTube channel. It's called Working Dog. This is an Australian comedy group. Mainly did comedy stuff on television. They started back in the 80s. They're still going strong today. day. So they have a subscription, like it's a, I think it's 299 Australian per month. And you get to essentially,

1:01:01 you get to look at what would essentially would have been on DVD. So they've turned their own YouTube channel with a 299 membership per month. It's essentially, you know, for three bucks a month, you get access to all their back catalog. So just think of it like Netflix, but they're using YouTube as a vessel for this. And you get, you get some pretty cool australian comedy from you know the 80s 90s these

1:01:25 guys have worked right through and they've put up entire seasons of their show so these guys are prolific for making uh tv shows um both scripted uh live they did live stuff back in the 90s um they're now doing well they're now doing they've done movies probably and one of the movies is actually being put into like the hall of fame here in australia's um so essentially kind of like a library

1:01:46 of congress kind of thing um so it's called working dog um pretty much i think yeah you do want the membership for you can just try out membership for like a month turn it off of course so for three bucks you can take a look at all their content binge with their content you can probably binge it in probably one or two months um essentially treat it like they've got playlists

1:02:04 but these playlists are more like a season of on dvd so that's probably the best way of looking at it um you can watch all that stuff free so a lot of stuff is available for free without subscription subscription um but yeah the three bucks a month subscription is it's pretty cool to watch a lot of stuff you just can't really find anywhere some of this stuff was on vhs i own the vhs of for instance

1:02:22 late show on the dgen back in the day i don't have them anymore i don't know where they went um but yeah so some of this stuff was available for purchase in home video um in the 90s but it's really cool that they've and they own all the content and they're putting it up and as i said they are currently still making programs like every week so their current shows are going up

1:02:41 as well usually about seven days delay because they're on broadcast tv so that's pretty cool courtney you know uh a few videos have been wandering across my youtube feed lately and i've stumbled across a lot of entries from the higgs field ai global film festival and they do this film festival every year of ai generated films and uh this one in particular uh cut two

1:03:10 here, called The Forest, is I have not taken notice of how good AI films have, you know, AI video generation has gotten in creating live-looking, real-looking people and real acting that's happening in these people. These kids sound like kids, and the parents sound like parents, and they're in realistic situations, and all the dialogue, the music, the camera work, the writing, the lighting, the acting, the camera, you know, everything is AI generated.

1:03:45 This is a Black Forest Films, I think, did this one called The Forest, and I think they're located in Hawaii. And the kids, there's a range of kids in this particular short film, from, as you can see, the two or, I mean, the four or five age, all the way up to a couple of girls that are teens or tweens. And all of their dialogue and situations

1:04:11 are perfectly believable. And this little story has a heartfelt ending, which I won't spoil here. But it's a little bit hokey in the ending, but it's curious. They discover something in the forest that's making noise at night, and they go to explore. So that's just one of many of these AI films. And I am amazed. I think actors should be very, very worried

1:04:33 because all these actors are completely believable. And, of course, you have, in all of these entries, you have production values that, you know, would rival any Hollywood studio. So be afraid. Be very, very afraid. But then we'll all be dead by the end of it. I think you're right, Connie, but I think it's more than just actors. I was about to say the writers, the gaffers, the visual effects,

1:04:57 the giant flying dragons. Because the actors could still come in. Yeah. Yeah. Because they could treat it like animation. The actors could still come in and give a performance to reference from like animation. But I think the gaffers and the grips and the technicians. Yeah, all the technicians better be worried. The actors, they can also plot their moves and they can follow the AI.

1:05:16 Because they have artistry. Yeah, the actors have artistry. Follow their moves and everything, but change their wardrobe and everything else. Yeah, the costume designers, forget about it. Forget about it. Because you could end up with just heads of department being only involved in large productions using AI. are because they're making correct decisions which which are required you know these groups that produce these uh they do it's not sometimes it's just one person uh that creates this stuff

1:05:39 and uh but there sometimes it's a group of people and each department is you know creates uh assets and they go and use ai to create uh individual actors and they use ai to create individual dress and they give those samples of that stuff to the video generation and it adds that wardrobe that was selected and created during AI from, let's say, the costume designer

1:06:03 who was on this project. Although they didn't design the costumes, but they prompted for certain types of costumes, et cetera, and locations as well. Very cool. Guy? Yeah, I'm going to go with this video here from, what is his name? Chris Williamson and he's got a new studio. It's called I Built My Dream Podcast Studio in Austin. And this has been a long time coming for this guy. We've showed him in the past where he's

1:06:40 rented studio spaces, but look at this ceiling. He wanted to get all the stands off the ground. So he wanted it because he's got some high-end folks coming in and he shares this with Alex Hormosy and it was very important for them to have people be comfortable not tripping over cables and whatnot so you could see that there's some some sound proofing up there and then there's just this ability to position these lights

1:07:05 wherever you want and it's a lot of nan lights some aperture and then even like these windows are the the he opens this one up this is a stained glass window but you can access the lights from by opening it up and then they're whatever whatever color you want them to be. So I'd imagine they've got a pretty nice board that allows him to get those colors.

1:07:31 But the interesting thing here is he really likes the ability to throw soft light. So you see here that in these, you have these egg crate designs. So getting soft light where you want it, you really need this type of grid to not have it fall off sharp. it'll fall off gradually. So he's using it as a backlight on a lot of folks and he's using some

1:07:57 negative fill. Let me pull up a little bit further. He has some, some negative fill where I think it's more at the end. And he actually walks you through where he shows these differences. God, that's a beautiful space. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty amazing what they've put together here. Well, you guys can watch it, figure out the rest of it. But yeah, this was the studio that he rented.

1:08:31 You'll have to watch it. You can watch it and go back. But this is that stained glass look where he can make that any color. And he shows if he wants a warmer look and make it more moody, depending on who his guest is and depending on the tone. And then he actually shows it in use where there's four people. Let me see if I can get to the four people and that's it.

1:08:56 Anyways, watch it. It's good. Very good. Tony. So I'm showing you right now, cause I, I'll be honest. I didn't know what the qualification was because I actually had two sci-fi shows that I was going to share. But as I listened, I said, well, maybe let me go to something that might be interesting to this, this, this group of people. So what I'm sharing is a free show,

1:09:22 which I've had, uh, Gary B junior on my, my show several times talking about it. And what free show is, is a pro presenter. Um, look alike. It does 90% of what pro presenter does and it's free. And I'm going to say it again. it does 90% of what pro presenter does and it's free. And so I'm using, I'm trying to use it with my house of worship.

1:09:56 And, um, I think guy is probably the only person that knows that I'm working with Claude to create my own, um, application to work with house of worship. But this one is in place. It's solid. It is, It is free. You can use it for a house of worship primarily, like ProPresenter, but you could use it for any kind of presentation. So this is what I wanted to share.

1:10:27 And I'll just quickly say that Strange New Worlds just ended. It's fourth season, five episodes coming, and then Lantern will have their last episode for the first season coming this Sunday. Very good. So I'll admit, I just kind of can't get enough of this. I love the guy's personality and I have ever since he's been on YouTube. Mark Roberts is now on Netflix

1:10:58 and he's doing Crunch Labs and the material is just beautiful. It is perfectly cut. He involves, you know, his nieces and nephews. And it really goes to show, like, just how much fun you can have with Netflix money and YouTube creativity. Like, the combination of those two is absolutely just... Viral doesn't even begin to cut it because it's just enough pro-production with all of the hard knocks required

1:11:33 required to like get to the very top of YouTube and the mix of the two is in my humble opinion just the very best so that will do it for extra hours unless anyone has any other thoughts but now I I know yeah let's let's let's uh let's wrap it here um thank you so much to the panel for um sharing your expertise and life experience thank you of course to the back end crew for

1:12:02 for keeping the show running smoothly and organized and making us look good. And of course to our producers for your great questions that drive the show each and every day. The Tlaloc traversal for episode 2379, had we done this in meat space, it would have been 30,000 miles, that's 49,000 kilometers, or there it is, 240 million bananas for scale. Thanks guys. Thank you.

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