Does anyone on the panel stack Blackmagic Design ATEMs to get more inputs? If so, what are the issues I might have to look out for?

55:44So make sure it's a tool that your team can readily jump into without having to change lots of personal habits. All right, Courtney, what's up next? Next up from St. Paul, Minnesota, Tommy Shantz says, anyone on the panel stack Blackmagic Design ATEMs to get more inputs? If so, what are the issues I might have to look out for? Courtney. Well, I'm doing that right now.

56:11I have my old ATEM Mini stacked into one of the inputs on my Rodecaster Video S coming in over an HDMI input. And I can tell you right now I did have an issue with that because the ATEM, you know, which has a USB output and the RODECaster video has a USB video input, you know, like webcams. But the problem is the RODECaster isn't compatible with everything.

56:39And one of the things that's not compatible with on the USB input happens to be the ATEMs. So I had to drop back and not use that spare USB input on the RODECaster to use up one of my three HDMI inputs on the RODECaster Video S. So I lost an HDMI input where I thought I was going to actually gain four from the ATEM

57:04by using that USB video webcam input. So be cautious of that. And the other thing is you have to watch a multi-view all the time and to make sure that you have pre-switched the downstream ATEM to the correct thing with the correct overlays and the correct audio, etc., before you take it on the upstream or downstream, the last switcher in line. So you've got to be careful.

57:37If you're not paying attention, you can have the wrong thing up on that ATEM, on the first ATEM going into your second ATEM. So you've got to make sure you switch the first one first and the second one second. And sometimes getting out of a situation like that can require double punching. Go ahead. Yeah, one of the things to be aware of is the reclocking.

57:58So they call this subswitching. Sometimes for a video feed, you might have a glitch or a delay because you've now introduced another hop in between. So unnecessarily, if you don't have to do it, just buy the right unit. But if it's something like computer screens, sometimes we'll have multiple PowerPoints and the next deck's coming up. And so a sub switch is okay. But for that, I really like to have a stream deck. So that way, the stream deck has got that ATEM's IP address. And I could just hot punch really fast because the last thing you want is to be using ATEM software control. And you have to actually switch instances of the switcher in the app. And so that's dangerous.

58:37So just be aware. It's easier to just buy the right tool for the job because you could run into, especially if it's an HDMI one and you're running into EDID handshake stuff. I mean, you just got to be really careful about what you're doing. So get the right tool for the job if you can. But if it's just one, you know, it's fine. Just be aware of reclocking.

58:58yeah it looks like a bunch of people in the chat are also mentioning that too mickey mackator in the chat was saying uh no don't do that doing it is fighting a losing battle you will not be able to have access to all your sources on cures and mes and john wallace said there's also the issue of sync issues with adding at least a frame of latency between

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59:54the Talag traversal that would have been 18,000 miles or 29,000 kilometers. That's 144 million bananas for scale. This was episode 2391. And after the show ends, if you want to jump into after hours, we'll see you there. Bye. Bye. Happy trains to you. Yeah, what happened to Roy Richards? I was going to come in as black and white there for a minute.