What does everyone think of the new Yamaha DM5 consoles?

49:50Next question. All right, this one's coming in from Douglas Carmichael. Douglas asks, what does everyone think of the new Yamaha DM5 consoles? Mr. Knight. Haven't had a chance. I did see the press release the other day for this. I haven't really had a chance to look at all the spec changes. So they've announced two new consoles. There's the DM5. So everyone knows the much more expensive, larger, bigger brother, the DM7.

50:20And everyone knows the giant chasm gap between the, you know, sub $3,000 little 16 channel Dante enabled DM3 and the DM7. And actually, they're not even close to being similar other than just the fact that the preamps shares the same preamp technology. It doesn't have the same processing power. The operating system looks and feels different. The busing structure is different. but so they've announced the dm5 and they've also announced a smaller dm5 compact and i haven't had

50:55a chance to really look at them too much to be honest with you and uh i was talking to mickey about this and i think he said that the dm5 compact is 10 grand if that's the case and that's in u.s dollars assuming that that's accurate you're going from say a dm3 which is like a $2,000 console to $10,000, it's still going to be a very, very large gap. So make no mistake,

51:18this is not just supposed to be a slightly beefed up DM3. This is really just a, you know, smaller DM7 that's supposed to be more affordable, but it's still pro level and you're going to pay pro level pricing for that. So I still feel, I'm still frustrated. It's got to see, it's got the Rupert Neve processing that the bigger DM7 has. So what I'm still frustrated about is that there

51:46isn't something that's more capable that is a little more money than a DM3 but not 10,000 plus dollars. And so I still feel that there's space in the market in Yamaha's product lineup. And you know what? Maybe the solution is going to be that because they're a little long in the tooth now the TF series of digital mixers those are overdue for a refresh so perhaps maybe what

52:15Yamaha will do is they they will make those the larger more affordable consoles that have the expansion slots because if you need more processing more channels more IO that kind of thing the TF series was the way to go without you know spending more than five thousand dollars so those are due for a refresh so I'm anticipating something I don't know when they're

52:36going to refresh that if that's going to be announced later this year or if it's going to be announced next year but we're probably reasonably close to a refresh of that entire product climate don't get me wrong I love the DM3 I think for a small little mixer it is very capable it serves a certain segment of the market that is people that don't require a lot of IO or a lot of buses

52:59but it is very good in a very small form factor. I love the large touchscreen on the DM3. I just wish it had a little more processing power. One of the things that frustrates me on the Yamaha operating systems, I just find that navigating menus, it's a little sluggish, and I don't know if that's just the processor. I've always found Yamaha consoles just a little bit sluggish,

53:24so I don't know if it's just they're running really bad code, but they don't they're not as snappy as say an Allen and Heath console is like if you look at any of the Allen and Heath SQ consoles they they're just much more responsive and actually speaking of Allen they just refreshed that whole SQ lineup with the SQ plus so I don't know who's

53:45going to buy this new DM5 and DM5 compact maybe churches will buy it but it's not at a price but like for me I don't have 10 grand or 12 grand for a console right now so it's kind of out of the budget of what I want to spend but certainly it will serve a certain segment of the market and making the chat mentions that he would take a look